{"id":35,"date":"2008-02-28T19:34:40","date_gmt":"2008-02-29T02:34:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fcsuper.com\/swblog\/?p=35"},"modified":"2014-12-10T17:01:23","modified_gmt":"2014-12-10T21:01:23","slug":"drill-and-tap-and-calloutmethodtxt-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.fcsuper.com\/swblog\/?p=35","title":{"rendered":"Drill and Tap; and calloutformat.txt (Part 1)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"seriesmeta\">This entry is part 1 of 4 in the series <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fcsuper.com\/swblog\/?series=hole-callouts\" class=\"series-1535\" title=\"Hole Callouts\">Hole Callouts<\/a><\/div><p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Sooner or later, the topic of how to callout a threaded hole comes up in pretty much everyone&#8217;s career in the Mechanical Engineering field.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve seen the nature of those discussions be straight forward, but I&#8217;ve also seen angst riddled arguements.\u00a0 Though this isn&#8217;t a SolidWorks specific topic, it is important to its users. This is because SolidWorks specifies hole callouts differently in different scenarios.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">The conventional rule (within ANSI Inch) is that a threaded hole should be called out as a leadered note showing its nominal drill size and depth on the first line, and the thread size, threads per inch, thread series designation, thread class and thread depth on the second line.\u00a0 This is common practice, so most people are comfortable using it. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Example (without use of symbols):<br \/>\n2X .190 DIA .190 DEEP<br \/>\n8-32 UNC-2B .164 DEEP<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Of course, this method has flaws, which I&#8217;ll get into later. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">I&#8217;ve seen two extremes as well.\u00a0 At one extreme, the threaded hole callout has the actual drill bit size listed in addition to specification for the tap and drill.\u00a0 I gather it would look something like this: <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">2X .438 DIA .25 DEEP WITH 7\/16 Q DRILL<br \/>\n.438 UNC-2B .375 DEEP <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Of course the basic flaw with adding the drill size is that this is a specification of process, which is generally disallowed by ASME Y14.5M-1994.\u00a0 It is equivalent to having the note &#8220;FORM THIS PART WITH LATHE MODEL XYB&#8221;\u00a0 or even, &#8220;JUMP UP AND DOWN THREE TIMES AND SPIN IN A CIRCLE BEFORE USING THE MILL TO CUT THIS HOLE&#8221;.\u00a0 Hyperbole aside, this practice is not appropriate. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">On the other end, one might find a hole callout that simply states the thread size, such as &#8220;TAPPED HOLE&#8221;\u00a0 This is a bad case of under-specification.\u00a0 I haven&#8217;t seen this method often on formal drawings, but it is very common on preliminary sketches.\u00a0 There just isn&#8217;t enough information. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">What is just-enough-information for a threaded hole callout?\u00a0 Well, this answer is easy.\u00a0 Thread size, threads per inch, thread series designation (sometimes considered optional), thread class, thread depth, and sometimes drill depth or end condition.\u00a0 The &#8220;nominal&#8221; drill diameter isn&#8217;t actually needed.\u00a0 There&#8217;s several flaws with including the drill diameter.\u00a0 First, the actual drill diameter is not based on the callout, but rather the thread itself.\u00a0 It is over-specification.\u00a0 Second, drill diameter is stated as a dimension, so it is not nominal.\u00a0 Because of this, the standard drawing tolerance must be applied to that dimension.\u00a0 Again, this is over-specification because the thread has its own tolerance for its final size.\u00a0 Simply by stating the thread class, its tolerance is called out.\u00a0 Third, because of these other points, specifying the drill diameter is actually a specification of process.\u00a0 Given all that, I always callout a threaded hole as so:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\"> 2X 8-32 UNC-2B DEPTH .165 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">In the rare event that drill hole depth or end condition is necessary to call out, then simply state that specification in the callout, or show it dimensionally on the drawing view itself.\u00a0 How this relates to SolidWorks and the <span style=\"color: #993300;\">calloutformat.txt<\/span> file will be discussed in <a title=\"Drill and Tap; 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